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176-10036-10173] 2025 RELEASE UNDER THE PRESIDENT JOHN F KENNEDY ASSASSINATION RECORDS ACT OF 1992
JFK ASSASSINATION SYSTEM
IDENTIFICATION FORM
AGENCY NARA
RECORD NUMBER 176-10036-10173
RECORD SERIES National Security Files
AGENCY FILE NUMBER
ORIGINATOR WH
FROM Bundy
To Lodge
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DATE 10/30/1963
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SUBJECTS
DOCUMENT TYPE
CLASSIFICATION
RESTRICTIONS
CURRENT STATUS
DATE OF LAST REVIEW 9/10/2000
OPENING CRITERIA
COMMENTS National Security Files, Box 201: Vietnam,10/29/63-10/31/63, CIA
Reports: Box 2
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1 Our reading your thoughtful 2063 leads
uS to believe a
significant difference of shading may exist on one crucial point (see
next para) and on one or two lesser matters clarified _
2 . We do not accept as a basis for U_ S. policy that we have
no power to or discourage a coup. In your paragraph 12 you say
that if you were convinced that the coup was going to fail you would of
course do everything you could to stop it: We believe that on this same
basis you should take action to persuade coup leaders to stop or delay
any operation which, in best judgment, does not clearly
high prospect of success . We have never considered any betrayal
of generals to Diem, and our 79109 'explicitly rejected that course. We
recognize the danger of appearing hostile to generals , but we believe that
our own position should be On as firm ground as possible, hence we cannot
implied in MESSAgE
limit ourselves to proposition that only conviction of certain: failure
justifies intervention . We believe that your standard for intervention
should be that stated above _
3 . Therefore, if you should conclude that there is not clearly a
high prospect of success_ you should communicate this doubt to generals
in & way calculated to persuade them to desist at least until chances are
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better _ In such a communication you should use the weight of U. S. best
advice and explicitly reject any implication that we oppose the effort of the
generals because of preference for present regime. We recognize heed to
bear in mind generals interpretation of U_ S. role in 1960 coup attempt, and
your agent should maintain clear distinction between strong and honest advice
as a
friend and any opposition to their 'ebjectives .
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We continue to be deeply interested in up-to-the-minute
assessment of prospects and are sending this before reply to our CAS 79126.
We
want continuous exchange latest assessments on this topic
5,0 To clarify our intent, paragraph 7 of our 79109 is rescinded
and we restate.our desires as follows:
a While you are in Saigon you will be chief of country
team in all circumstances and our only instruction is that we are
sure it will to have Harking fully informed at all stages and to
use advice from both him and Smith in framing guidance for coup
contacts and assessment. We continue to be concerned that neither
Conein nor any other reporting source is getting the clarity we would
like with respect to alignment of forces and level of determination
among generals
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When you leave Saigon and before there is a
coup, Truehart
will be chief of the country teamn. Our modification of
existing procedures is that in this circumstance we wish
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all instruction to Conein to be conducted in immediate
consultation with Harkins and Smith s0 that all three know
what is said to Conein. disagreement among the three on
such instructions should be reported to Washington and held
for our resoluti when time permits.
Co If you have left and 2 coup occurs, we believe
that emergency Situation requires, pending your return, that
direction of country team be vested in most senior officer with
experience of military decisions, and that officer in our view
is Harkins. We do not repeat not intend that this switch in final
responsibility should be publicized in any way, and Harkns will of
course be ded in basic posture by our instructions, which follow
in paragraph U. Thus we do not believe that this switch will have
the effect suggested in your paragraph 8.
This paragraph contains our present standing instructions
for U, S. posture in the event of a coupa
2' U, S: authorities will reject appeals for direct
intervention from either side, and U, S. -controlled aircraft and
other resources will not be committed between the battle lines
or in support of either side, without authorization from Washington.
ba In event of indecisive contest, U. S. authorities may
in their discretion agree to perform any acts agreeable to both sides,
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such as removal of personalities OI relay of information.
In such actions, however, U, S. authorities will strenuously avoid
appearance of pressure on either side. It is not in the interest
of USG to be or appear to be either instrument of existing
government or instrument of coup.
C, In the event of imminent or actual failure of coup,
U; S: authorities may afford asylum in their discretion to those
to whom there is any express or implied obligation of this sort.
We believe however that in such & case it would be in our interest
and probably in interest of those seeking asylum that they seek
protection of other Embagsies in addition to our own, This
should be made strongly if need arises.
d. But once a
coup under responsible leadership has
begun, and within these restrictions, itis in the interest of the U. S.
Gove rnment that it should succeed.
70. We have your message about return to Washington 2nd jE
all ci cent
fe3 Tot already -been Tade we suggest that be kept
as low and quiet as possible, and we also urge that if possible
you keep open the exact time of your departure. We are strongly
sensitive to great disadvantage of having you out of Saigon if this
should turn out to be a week of decision, and if it can be avoided
we would prefer not to see you pinned to a fixed hour of departure now,
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