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157-10011-10078] 2025 RELEASE UNDER THE PRESIDENT JOHN F_ KENNEDY ASSASSINATION RECORDS ACT OF 1992
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MATOB SQBJECTS TO BE_CQVERED N THE
TESTIMONY OF HOWARD J_ OSBORN
February 17_ 1975
Background of Mr. Osborn
See the written statement submitted
to the Commission
Mr . Osborn dated February 1975_
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Activities 9f the_@ffice of Security Giving_Rise to Questions
1_ Taping Systers_in_Certain
CIA Offices
In the offices of the DCI, the Deputy DCI, the Executive
Controller , the
Deputy Directo:Pio: Supporth€dxefd ycidiseido),
the Director of Security, and the Deputy Director of Security,
3 system of telephone taps and microphones has existed . This
syster has made it pogsible to record covertly
versation
any telephone con or office conference place in those offices_
All CIA officials in whose offices such equipment was installed
aware of its presence ad its capability of
were fully
Portiong of the system have been
activated by ther_
disconnected in recent years
2. Covert Uses of Listening_Devices by the_Office of Security
In each instance the installation of listening devices
was apPproved by the Director of Cen tral Intelligence:
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20 A conversation which occurred
in a motel between Victoz
and Admiral Rufus Taylor,
former Deptey Dteceor oc Ceatrareneed
telligence,
02s covertly recorded. This wa3 3 meeting ByAdmint} Iaylor for the puzpose 0f attempting teepezg ade Ked
Marehettinot to sensitive information in
2 book which he
wa then writing;
b Interviews with defectors have been covertly recorded from time
to time;
C With the approval of Attorney General Katzenbach,
2 telephone tap
was placed on the telephone of a CIA employee who was alleged to be 3 sPy of 2 country;
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d. Polygraphs of job applicants and some contractors have been
routinely covertly recorded;
The field 'offices of the CIA have from time to time installed covert
recording devices to record conversations of CIA employees with
others where there was some reason to be concerned about the
loyalty of such employees .
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3 Physical Surveillance
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Physical surveillance of individuals in this country hag been very rare
25 far as the Office of Secur is conc erned_ Circumstances under
which surveillance has been conducted have been limited to the following:
20 CIA employees and contract agents believed to be divulging classi-
fied information to unauthorized persons;
b Vietog Magekedbiito find out if he Wa3 getting inforntiol current
employees of the CIA;
Jack Anderson, Les Whitten and another_legmanto determine their
sources of_classified information, and Micbeel @etee? a staff writer
for the Weshiaguo@ PoBG for the same purpose;
d A female contact of the Latin American Division (and some of her
aggociates) who reported to the CIA the existen ce of 2 plot to
assassinate the Vice President and to kidnap the Director of Central
Intelligence.
4. Watergate_Contacts
2.' The McCord Letters
ba The_Pennington_Matter
Assistance to E Howard Hunt and White House re Ellsberg
5, Covert Informers Employed by_the Agency
a. Within_the_Agency&nd_ Its Contractors
The Office of Security employs a wide range of confidential in-
formers from among the general roster of employees of the Agency.
Included here are plumbers , chauffeurs, guards telepkone main -
tenance men, electricians members of the char force, etc. Thes e
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employees are additional compensation to act as infomers
and to report to the Office of Security on any potential security
problers Ivhich they observe among their fellow employees at
the Agency-
A few outside employees_ i. e. non - employees of the Agency , are
also retained for the same Purpose. This would inc hude employees
of the telephone company and construction workers engaged in the
construction of Agency buildings . In a]l instances however, the
purpose is to maintain security among CIA employees and those
working for CIA contractors
Two proprieiesy Conaprnieg
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have keea uged "de d@ large
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In 1967 and 1968 the Office of Security arranged for Anderson Security
Associates to have its employees attend meetings and other functions
of various organizationg thought to represent potential threats to CIA
personnel or installations and to report on such threats. A list of
organizations to be checked for indications of-8uch threats wa$ Pro -
vided to Anderson Security Associates, wbich in turn provided regular
reports to the Office of Security on the activities of the organization
monitored,
There was algo coordination between the Office of Security and local
police departments to cover the game activity. An effort was made
to determine the size of anticipated demonstrations and to anticipate
what security forces would be necessary to cope with ther _
In 1967 and 1968 the Office of Security directed the field offices to
solici t or report information on anti- war and dissident elements
The CIA wa3 concerned about the safety of its personnel, such as
recruiters Dn college campuses , and it8 offices around the country.
The field offices were directed at about that time to establish 3
clipping service on carpus and other newspapers to report on organi-
zations and individuals Ivho might represent threats to CLA perconnel
or offices.
As 2 result of the information fed into the Office of Security relating
to organizations and individuals who may represent such threats a
substan tial number of files were accumulated on individuals and or -
ganizations .
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6 Mail Intercept Pregramsin Newv York and San Francisco
7 . Cover Operations_ Using Local Police_Cover
Arrangements were
made several years ago with Coliel Duzre? of
the Fairfax County, Va. Police Department for the issuance of
badges and other police identification for use by CIA security personnel.
This involved about 15 sets of identification.
These badges and other identification were never used by the CIA.
were all returned to Goleael Dusseset
Similar arrangernezts have been made with other police departments .
Strict orders were issued that the use of identification a9 local police
officers was to be limited strictly to situationg involving actual cover
for surveillance purpoges_
8 . Training of State and Local Police and Other Assistance
Assistance was rendered to many local police departments , including
those of the cities of New York and Chicago, aod to the Maryland and
Virginia state during the period 1965 to 1972. He sta tes that this
Prograr was
vigorously and enthugiastically approved and s upported
by Mr. Helms _
Asgistance consisted of tra of personnel, the loaning of equipment,
and the declassification of materials and techoiques in such area 49
photo analysis, surveillance techoiques , metals detection
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explosives
detection, locks and picks_ hidden microphones , telephotography and
covert photography, and the setting uP, handling, and or ganization of
intelligence operations.
This prograr wag terminated upon pagsage of an amendment to the Law
Enforcement Assistance Act, which prohibited assigtance to local and
state police departments by the CIA.
9 Break-Ins Without Warrants
Mr .
Osborn states that the only break-ins which have occurred to his
kowledge by security personnel of the CIA have been those involvi:lg
employees _ former employees , or CIA contact agents who were under
investigation for suspected disclosure or classified information_
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10. Counter-Audio Sweeps
At the request of other departmnents and agencies, including Congres _
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sional Committees the Office of Security conducts "counter-audio
sweeps" of their offices to protect against telephone taps , hiden
microphones and other intercepts of audible cormunications_
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COMAIISSION ON CIA ACTIVITIES WTTHIN THE UNITED STATES
Washington, DC 20500
Nelson A Rockefeller_ David W. Belin,
Chairman Executive Director
John T_ Connor February 13, 1975
C. Douglas Dillon
Erwvin N_ Griswold
Lane Kirklanc
Lyman L Lemnitzer
Ronald Reagan
Edgar F. Shannon, Jr.
MMORANDUM FOR THE FILE
FROM: ROBERT OLSEN
SUBJECT : Sumary of an Interview of Hoard Osborn, conducted on February 10
and 1l in the offices of the Cammission by M = Robert B Olsen
Present throughout the interview
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wich was conducted from 2:00 pm to apzroxi-
mately 5:30 pm on February 10 and from 12 non until 2.45 pm and fram 4:45 pm
to approximately 8:00 pm on February Ll, was the attorney for Mr. Osborn,
Jack Deblius _
Mr Osborn apeared voluntarily at the request of the Commission staff_ At the
outset, Mr _ Debelius raised a series of questions:
1 He asked uS to suply an outline of the authority of the Comission_ He
was handed a cpY of the Executive Order creating the Comission and spelling
out its duties and pOwers _
2 He asked whether the Comission had subpoena powers,and he was advised that
it did nta
3. He asked wether the Commission had power to grant imunity to witnesses, and
he was advised that the Conmission does not have such power.
4 He asked wat liaison has been established , or will be established btween the
Commission and the various Senate and House Comittees which will be investi-
gating the CIA and other intelligence activities He was tola that the Com
mission expects to establish such liaison, but that none of the ground rules
Or arrangements have been agreed upon _
5 He asked Ivhether M Osbrn Ivould have an opportunity to revierv the transcript
of any recorded testimony that he may give to the Comission or to tha Com
mission staff He was told that the Commission staff had agreed uon a policy
of allowing any tness to examine the transcript of his Own testimony .
He asked whether Mr _ Olsen had been cleared for security and Wether Mr .
Osborn was free to reveal all levels of classified information in the curse
of the interviciv_ He was advised that suc a clearance had been obtained for
Mr = Olsen and that Mr Osborn was free to answer fully ay questions put to
him within the scope of the responsibilitics of the Comission.
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Mr _ Debelius stated that he had carefully reviewed his
Own situation as a
former employee of the Office of Security within the CIA and that he had
oncluded that there Ias no prospect that he would be called as a Witness
either bv the Commission or by any Congressional or other comittee_ Hence ,
he did not feel that there wuld be conflict in his representation of
Mr = Osborn under the canons of ethics applicable to the legal proEession_
Backgreund_of Mr _ Osborn
Howard Osborn graduated from the Virginia Polvtechnic Institute in 1940 and
shortlv thereafter entered the military service_ After World War II he was briefly with Firestone Tire & Rubber Corpanv and then joind che Central
Intelligence Agency in late 1947. He served in various assignents within
the United States and Europe prior to September 1963, including assignment
as Assistant to the Inspector General and tions within the Directorate
of Plans_ In September 1963 he was named Deputy Director of Security_ At
that tim the Director of Securitv was Rob Bannerman On July 1, 1964 , he
was named Director Of Security, and he continued in that tion until earlv
March 1974 when he applied for disability retirement and went On sick leave _
He was retired on disability on Decenber 31_ 1974, having mt returned to
work since going on sick leave on March 8 , 1974 . He states that he had no
involvement whatever with Agencv activities after March 8 , 1974.
Activities of the_Office of Security
The Office of Security provides guards ad security personnel to protect thz
phvsical facilities Of the Agency _ It has reszons ibility for Overall security
measures for all CIA installations
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both in the United States and in foreign
ountries
Counter-Audio_Stveeps
At the request of other departuents and agencies of the United States Covernment
it conducts 0 cunter-audio Sweeps 0 of their offices to protect against telephone
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and other irtercepts of audible communications
In the case of Congressional cmittees and suboommittees_
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it onducts such
Siveeps Of hearings rOOms on the occasion of classified presentations bv CIA
personnel _ Mr _ Osborn further stated that there may have been Other Occasions
when such S:eeps were made of Congressional cmittee rOOms _ at the cmittee
request, where classified presentations were to be made. Mr _ Osborn does not,
hovever = specifically recall such other occasions
It also seems to Mr Osborn that the Office of Security has made similar
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Sweeps for one Or mre individual cngressmen Or senators Of their offices in
tha Senate or House Office Buildings_
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but he again has no specific recollection-
The OEfice of Security also makes such Sleeps of the homes of officials Of the
CIA with their knowledge.
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Fe knaws of no case in wich the CIA has made a Sweep of any other residences_
It does make Sweeps of private firms who have CTA cntracts but always with
the kmowledge and cnsent 0f the firm:
He states that his Office has never used equipment for cunter-audio sweeps for
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ne sweeps cnducted included physical inspection, checking all telephones for taps,
checkinq desks, walls, ceilings and floors for listening devices Or radio
receivers and mav involve such sophistiaated Measures as counter-laser neasures
and the use Of a Dodge mbile home equipped with sophisticated equirment capable
of picking Up a radio transmission from nearby premises_
Taping_Systems in Certain CIA Offices
Mr_ Ozborn stated thzt Mr= Helrs had authorized for use in his office,
in the offic of the Deputy Director of Central Intelligence, in the Office of
the Executive Director-Controller_ in the office of the Deputy Director for
Support (now Aainistration) in the officz OE the Director of Security and
in the office of the Deputy Dictor of Security a system of telephone taps and
secret mi crophones which made it pOssible to record overtly any telephone on-
versation Or office cinference taking place in those offices The taping system
could b activated Iith respect to telephones by depressing a button On the tele-
phone in the office Or on the telephone at the Zesk Of the secretary in the
adjacent office_ The taping system to record office conversations would be
vated by depressing a buttan uder the carpet in the vicinity of the desk of the
person occupying that office_ All CIA officiils in whose offices such equipent
was installed were fully aware of its presencz and its capability of being acti
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vated only by them:
The rexorded conversations from all of these offices, except those in the Office
of Security, [vere recorded in a central bank of recorders located in the base_
Tent of the building: Tnose emanating from the Office of the Director of Security
Or Deputy Director of Security Were recrded on tvin recorders located dow the
hall from those offices
All recorded telephone &nd office conversations were transcribed. In sone in-
stances the tapes were retained, and in sone instanczs they Ivere erased: It is
not knomn whether the Agency retains any of the typed transcripts. From
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particularly as an official has departed from the CIA, he has
Oldered tapes erased and transcripts destroyed_
Mr _ Osbmn reports that Mr = Oblby directed the removal of the recrding ad tele-
phone taping equipment from his office Ihen kz becai Executive Director_
Controller of the Agency &d Tvhen he became Director of Central Intelligence
Mr _ Bannerman also had the equiprent talten out of his office When he became Deputy
Director for Support (Administration) Apparently all other officials in whose
offices such ecuipment was installed used it from time to Lie _
Positive Uses of Ounter-Audio Equipent
Mr _ Osborn stated that he wishes to clarify his previous testimony that cuntcr
audio had nt been usca in a psitive sense _ Muat he nant Ias that it had nt
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been used in the tive sense under ay of the circunstances referred to
above _ There were, hovever, several situaticns in which telephone tapes and
covert recording devices were erployed by the Office of Security:
1 A conversation which occurred in a
motel between Wictor Wardhetti and
Admiral Rufus Taylor former Deputy Director Of central Intelligence, was
covertly recorded, This was a mee Ling_arranced by Admiral Taylor for the
purpose of atterpting to persuade Mo Wareletti not to divulqe sensitive
information in a book which he Ias ten writing;
2_ Interviews with defectors have been covertly recorded from time to time;
3_ With the approval of Attorney General Katzenbach, 4 telephone tzp Ivas placed
On the telephone of a CIA erplovee who was alleged to be a SpY Of a foreign
country;
Polygraphs of job applicants and sone contractors have been routinely
covertly recorded;
5_ Tle field offices of the CIA have from tine to time installed cvert
recording devices to record qersations of CIA employees with others
where there Ias sane reason to be concerned about the loyalty of such
emloyees _ In each instance the installation of such listening devices
was expressly approved by the Director of Central Intelligence . Mr _ Osbon
recalls only three such instances:
a In 1972-73 suci a device was installed in an effort to unoover details
where an old defector was being forced to make kickbacks of his corpensa-
tion fra CIA to his CIA case officer;
ba At a date which culd not be recalled by Mr _ Osborn a device had been
installed to record activity of a female employee of the CIA Ivho had
becone closelv and intimately associated with persons believed to be
dissidents;
In about 1968 or 1969 at the request of Mr_ Frank Bartamo of the Depart-
ment Of Defense the CIA planted listening devices at the apartnent of 3
serviceman doing highly sensitite cryptographic wrk_ This was dre Kith
the full knowledge of Mr _ Willian Sullivan Of the FBI Mr. Osbor spec
lates trat the CIA was called upon to accomplish this task for the De
partment of Defense because Mr _ Sullivan believed that Je Edgar Flover _
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Mr Osborn states that there may have been othr instances @nere such listenr;
devices were
installed within the United States_ but he des not recal] any
others He is ephatic to the efEect that after President Johnson issued an
Executive Order prohibiting telephone taps without the authority of the Attorey
General_ the CIA never
to his knwledge overtly tapped a telephone within the
United States exacpt in the one incidence authorized hy Attorney Ceneral
Katzenbach .
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P: Physical_ Surveillance 1
Mr_ Osbrn states that physical surveillance of individuals in this country Fee
has been very rare as far as the Office of Security is concerned He doubts
that it has exceeded ten times during his tenure in the Office of Security. 1
He describes those circustances under wnich surveillance has been conducted %
as being limitea to the following:
1 CIA employees and contract agents believed to be divulging classified
information to unauthorized persons;
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Vlctor Macheuti/to find out if he Ias getting information from current
erplOyzes of the CIA;
3 _ Jack Anderson, Les Whitten and another_Legman to detemine their souICes
Of classifiej inforation,and Micleel @ezterd a staff writer for {83
Washinguon Besi for the same purpose;
4 A female agent of the Latin American Division who reported_ to the CIA the
existence of a plot to assassinate the Vice President and to kidnap the
Director of Central Intelligence_ This surveillance was conducted under the
supervision of Mr_ Ober _
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of the Directorate of Operations, with the full
kowledge of the FBI_
Also included in this surveillance was sote of the contacts of this agent
in Detroit Miami, and New York City. T.e agent involved here was Thelma
King, and the surveillance took place in 1971_ (Mr . Osborn reports that
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conversation between Miss King &d her case officer in a New York hotel
was also covertly recorded.)
Mr . Osborn is emhatic to the fact that every instance of phvsical surveillance
in his experience Ias authorized by the Director of Cen*ral Intelligence except
that Mr_ Branman the Deputy Director for Administration, may have been the
official to authorize the surveillance of enployees_
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but it is possible that
these also were approved by Mr . Colby as DCI Mr_ Osbor is also emphatic to the
effect that no member of Congress has ever been placed under physical surveillance,
has ever had his telephone tapped, has ever been covertly mnitored with respect
to any cnversations or canmunications Or has ever had a security check performed
on him by the CIA.
Watergate Contacts
1 The McCord Letters: Mr _ Osborn states that a letter directed to Mir . Ielms
in late June 1972 was referred to his office as a part of the 10 crank mail" 6
ved that He recognized the signature On the letter as being that
of a forer employee of the Office of Security Mr . Janes McCord _ Mr McCord
had shortlv before that been arrested in connection Ivith the breakin at thc
Demcratic National eadquarters on June 16 1972_ Mr Osborn states that he
imediatcly brought this letter to the attention of Richard Ilelms , the DCI
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Mr = Helms directed that the letter should be retained in the file, but that
nothing further should be done about it and that he would take care Of it_
Thereafter a series of letters were received Erom Fic . McCord by Pzul Gaynor _
then the Chief of Secrity Fesearch Staff within the Office of Security-
These letters were received Mr = Gaynor at his hone_ Each letter was
promptlv to the attention of Mxr_ Helis The thrust of these letters
was that
brerzatmts
the ttee to Re-elect the President &d high Officials within
the Nixon Achinistration were planning to blamz the CIA for the Watergate
break-in_ Mr _ Helms directed that thesz letters not be referred to the
Justice Departient and that he wula take care of them. Mr _ Osborn recalls
present wen the matter wvas discussed Ivith the General Counsel of the
CIA Mr wbo advised that the CIA was not obligated to reveal these
letters to the Departient.
At a mch later date, Mr. Osborn gave full testimony Ivith respect to these
McCord letters and the actions regarding ther to the Nedzi Subcomittee of
House Appropriatians Committee and to the cunterpart Senate Suboomittee.
2 The_Pennington Matter: For many vears a man named Lee Pennington, a former
FBI agent, has been retained bv the CIA as a confidential informant. His
copensation from the CIA has been S250 per month. Mr _ Osborn stated that he
has no idea what kind of information has ever been supplied to the Agency by
Mi Pennington in exchange for the corpensation paid him.
In Auqust 1972 Mr Osborn was On
vacation during the time his deputy_ Exmal
Geiss was
in charge of the Office of Security- (The Office of Security had
been designated by the DCI as the liaison Ivith all other goverental agencies
and departrents relating to [Naterqate ratters. )
Ihile Mr = Osborn was On vacation anFBI agent named Arnold Parham contacted
the Office of Security Znd requested infomation on a man simplv named
"Pennington" 81 The request was directed to Steve Kuhn the Office of
Security_ Mr = Kuhn S Zeputy _ Hollis Whitaker , took the request of agent
Parham to Exmal Geiss and asked whether the FBI should be given the nanes
of both Penningtons or just one Of them. Mr . Geiss instructed Whitaker that
Parham should be supplied only with the nane of Cecil Pennington _ a retired
employee of the CIA, who was not related in any wav to Lee Pennington_ Geiss
instructed Ihitaker that Lee Pennington S name should not be given to Parham.
Mr - Geiss muld have known that Janes McCord while he Ias erpployed in the
Office of Security had acted as the case officer for Iee Pernington, that
McCord Ias involved with the Watergate break- and that the FBI was really
interested in Lee Pennington _
Mr _ Osborn states that all of the abowe information came to his attention in
February 1974 and that he had ro knonledge ofE it until that tire _
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Lee Pennington and a man named Charles @ylie were the only tvo onfidential
informants wo Osborn can think of who Kere erploveed 2s such by the Office
of Security during his tenure with that office_ (This is in addition to
CIA erplovees and the employees of propriety investigating companies wo
have been used as informants.) Mr _ [ylie was a journalist and writer who
was paid S1O, 000 per year plus certain travel extenses by the CIA to
act as an informant, but Mr_ 'Osborn has no idea Ihat kind of information
he provided to the Agency in recent years_ He does recall that many
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years ago Wylie provided information regarding the Vienna, Austria, Youth
Festival and also soe information gathered On the trip he made to Japan .
Mr Osborn states that he has never mt Lee Pennington or Charles Wylie,
nor has he ever talked with either of them in person Or by telephone_
(Mr _ Penninaton was apparentlv terminatr 1 as a CIA informant on Decerber 31 ,
1973.) Mr _ Osborn states that he 01 started action" to terminate Wylie in
about January Or February 1974_ He thouqht that Wvlie had never provided
anything to the Office of Security and that it was 1 no time to have a domestic
01 informant_
Both Penninqton anc Wylie had been inforants for thz Office Of Security for
many years had been retained in that capacity even before Mr Osborn
became Deputy Director Of Security in 1963_
In February 1974 in cnnection Ivith 3 search of files in the Office of Security
Some indication was turned up that Mr_ Osborn had been informad in January 1973
about the fact that Lee Pennington had entered the hane and the office of
Janes McCord at the request Of Mrs_ McCord on January 22 _ 1972 , to locate and
destroy records Ihich would kave revealed a 0 link" between Mr . McCord and the
CTA. Mx Osborn denies that he received any such infomation The infora-
tion was allegedly given to him by Paul Gaynor , Chief Of Security Research , in
the Office of Security.
Mr = Gaynor retired in 1973 at the request of Mr _ Osborn , who had been directed
to cut a GS-l6 fram his staff in a personnel reduction mve _ states that
Mr _ Gaynor accepted this request gracefully ad retired_
Osbor and Gaynor have never discussed wvith each other the subject of Lee
Pennington or the deception practiced On the FBI in August 1972 _ Osbom does
not think that Gavnor opened up the subject, but he does believe that Gaynor
has testified before either one of the Congressional committees investigating
Watergate or the Special Prosecutor s Office
} Aeter Mr Gaynor retired Iou Vasaly of tha Office of Security has handled
contacts with nylie ad Pennington_
In January or February 1974 Mr Osborn sent Sidney Steinbridge of the Office
of Security to New Yark to terminate Mr Iylie.
Lec Pennington died in the fall Oi' 1974 of natural causes He was in his
middle 70's.
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3 Assistance to E= Howard Hunt re Ellsberg Break-In
Mr _ Osbom states that the Office oE Securitv had no involvement whatever
with the assistance rendered by the CIA to Nr _ Hunt in cnnection with
the break-in of the offices of EllsbergF S psychiatrist ad that he had
no knonledge of that matter prior to the break-ins He is now aqquainted
with the White House request made to Ceneral Cushman for assistance to
Mr. Hunt in 1971_ He is also naw familiar with the fact that the CIA
provided to fir_ Hunt disguise equipment, false identification papers
and a caera in respnse to the Rhite House request_ He also now knivs
that Mr _ Hunt arranged for the develogrent of the photographs which he
had apparently takon on the occasion of the break-in at the office of
Mr = Elisberg'S psychiatrist.
In 197l Mr. Osborn received a request from Mr _ Young at the White House
for the psych logical profile on Daniel Ellsberg. He says that Mr _ Young
stated that the White House had been very pleased with the profile which
had been developed by the CIA on Fidel Castro and muld like the same
kind of profile On Ellsberg.
Osborn stated that he responded to Young that the CTA personnel had a
areat deal of biographical material On Ellsberg. Young assured Osbom
that the Wnite House would provide material on Ellsberg. Osborn re_
sponded that such a request would have to be approved by the DT
Mr. Helms
Osbor then took the matter to Mr Helrs who approved the project and
told hin to provide the remuested assistance to Young.
Young thereafter sent materials from tze to time to Osborn relating to
Ellsberg. It was Osbor s imppression that these materials were very
fragamentary and wuld not be sufficient to provide a meaningful psycho_
logical profile Nonetheless_ the reqjuest and the materials were
turned over to the doctors at CIA and a draft of a profile Ivas ul timately
worked up. Mr _ young did mt appear to be Very well nleased with the
draft.
Mr _ Osborn surmises that the break-in at the offices of Dr_ Fielding
(Ellsberq S
psychiatrist) Ias acconplished for the purpoe of gathering
more information Iith which to develop a better psvchological profile_
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The Office of Security employs a Wide range of confidential informers fram
the general roster of employees of the Agency Included here are
{ among
chauffeurs, guards_ telephone maintenznce mn, electricians members 7 plumbers_
etc. These employees are additional corpensation to
of the char force_
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security problems which they observe arng their fellon employees at the Agency .
If an enplovee, for exarple , has been convicted of a crime or is thought to b
engaging in any contact which would make hin susceptibie to blackmail, that
matter is supposed to be reported to the Office of Security_ Likevise, if any
enployee is observed conducting himself in a
suspicious manler, such as request-
information from files wich do not concer him, that is to be reported:
A fev outside emplovees i e. non -
erplovees of the Agency , are also retained
for the same purpose_ This would include emloyees of the telephone copary
In all instances hever, the purpose is to maintain security annq the CIA
emplovees and those working for the CIA_
staff employees retained as inforers are those Ivho Iork in the records
OfeicolofsthefDerectoreserof Operations Several staff emplovees in that office
were recruited at the reauest of Mr_ Thomas Karamessines because of the extrerely
high level of sensitivitz and the records maintained in that office_
When the CIA Headquarters was constructed in the late 1950's, the Office of
Security recruited various members of_ the construction work force to maintain
security aginst the installation of listening_devices telephore taps or Obler
pnetrations of the premises
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In 1967 and 1968 the Office of Security arranged for the Anderson Security
Associates to have its employees attend meetings and other functions of varios
zations thought to
represent potential threats to CIA personnel or installa-
orqanis
on such threats A list Of organizations to be checked for
tions and to report
to Anderson Security Associates_ which
indications Of such threats was provided
the activities of
in tur proided regular reports to the Office of Security on
the organization mnitored
Security Associates was in reality rn bv Mr_ Ralph True, a CIA Head
Anderson
Officer who also ran a
similar Iholly-Ored propriet ary corpany On
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the West Coast,
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It has been mentioned above that Mr. Osborn informed us of thz activity of the
Anderson Security Associates in Maintaining in the [ashington, D.C. area a E
chzck
on individuals and Organizations who would represent potential threats
to CIA personnel or
organizations _
There Ivas also cordination bettveen the Office Of Security and local police
departrents to cover the same activity. An effort was made to deter ne the
Size of anticipated dennstraticns and to anticipate Ihat security forces
wuld be necessary to cope with then.
In 1967 and 1958 the Office of Security directed the field offices to solicit
Or report information on anti-war and dissident elenents Tne CIA was concerned
about the safetv of its personnel such as recruiters on college campuses and
its Offices around the ountry _ Its recrui office in Ann Arbor _ Michigan,
had been bombed at about that time _ Mr = Osbrn also believes that the field
offices were directed at about that time to establish a clipping service on
canppuses and other newspapers to report on
organizations and individuals who
might represent threats to CIA personnel or Offices_
As a result of the information fed into the OEfice of Security relating to
organizations and individuals Iho my represent such threats a substantial
nuber of files Were accuulated on individuals &nd organizations _
Mail Intercepts
N_ Osborn reprts that a mail intercept progrem in New York City began in about
1952 and ended in 1973 He learned of this program when he became Director of:
the Soviet-Russian D.vision in the Operations Directorate. He states that the
involved the identification of parties Iithin the United States sending 3nd
pcrvingmaly
with persons in the Soviet bloc cuntries and the identificticm cf the
prsons in the Soviet bloc sending ad receiving such mail Selected items of
mail were
also opened &nd photographed, and then resealed and forwvarded. Mr . Osbom
states that he cannot recall any specific use made bv the CIA of the infomation SO
obtained_ The primary purpose of the projram as he understood it was to de
information to the FBI He recalls several conferences regarding the program.
It was
his position that the three personnel from the Office Of Security who
worked on
the program were not performing any useful service _ for the Office of
Security, that it Was a drain on the budget of his office, and that the CIA had
business tapering Ivith the mail in the first place_ Mr = Colby , wen he was
no
Director-Controller of the Agengy supported Mr Osborn S position on the
FatcetiveItivas
opposed by Mr _ Angleton of the Directorate of Operations who
matter
that the information derived fxm the project was vitally neces -
argued primarily
Mr _ Helns elected to hv the progran continue_ It was finally
salry i? the FBI
that Air . Schlesinger was DCI in 1973_
terminated bv Mr .
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Mr _ Osborn also thought that continuation of the progra was too risky in the
light of public &nd Congressional attitude tonard the CIA. He thinks tht the
program Originatcd while Allen Dulles was DCI &nd that it was undertaken with
the knowledge and consent OE the Postnaster Ceneral_ However, this is hearsay_ according to Mr _ Osbom-
Mr Osborn is also acquinted with the fact that from 1969 to 1971 the project
Of mail surveillance occurred from time to timf in San Francisco_ The Office
of Security ade the arrangements th the Post Office Departient for this
progrzm, but it was carried out by the Far East Division and the Technical
Services of the Directorate Of Operations The Technical Services Division
at that time Fas headed by Rod M. Kenner Iho is naw retired and living in
Florida.
The arrangements with the Po-:t Office Departient were made by Jack Turton
of
the Office Of Security. Mr_ Osborn has the vaguest knowledge Of the pur-
pse Of this project and muld offer no further light than that it involved
sone checking on the stamping and postmarking of mail from the Peoples Republic
Of China. The project was orally okayed Mr _ Helms. Mr_ Osborn has no knvl -
edge o: any otler mail underover projects in New Orleans or elseixhere_
Cover Operations Us_ Ipcal_Police_Cover
Mr _ Osborn stated that arrangements here made several ye_ rs ago with @olonel Dgrer
of the Faixfax County, Virginia, Police Departrent for the issuance Of aid other police identification for use by CIA security personnel. It is M_ Osborn S
recllection that this involved abut 15 sets of identification.
Tnese badges_&d other identification were
never used bv the CTA. were all
returned tozdolonol Dusiert
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This arrangerent was inspired bY difficulties Ivhich had been encountered by
security personnel in conducting a physical surveillance of Nigtoiz Ikuchestio It
seens that @rcheti 1ived in 3 residential comunity and his norz was sitation on
a cul-de-sac . This made it extremely difficult to cruise by his hare or station
a
security car anywere near his hane without attracting the attention of other
residents in the neighborhood _ Security personnel Ivho may have been si in a
car Within several blocks of the Mlaschelti residence muld hava attracted the curio
sity of the residents and the operation wodld be threatened if such residents
approached the car and asked wat the occupants Ivere ding there and if Iere
qiven straigint-fortvard answers _ According" to Mr_ Osborn , it was highlv desirable
that the security personnzl be able to respond to such inquiries by saying that
Were police perforning official duties Mst citizens_ he savs , huld accept
that as SUEficient, Ivhereas their curiasity would be even further aroused if the
sccurity personnel identified themselves as th the CIA.
Osborn states that he had issued strict ordcrs that the use of identification
local plice officers Ivas to be limited strictly to situations invol- actual
vcr [or surveillance purposes-
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B _
with the [ashington, D C; Metropolitan Police [partment, and he thinks that
there Fer? instances in Iich such cover was actually used, but he does not
recall fic cases_ He also states that it is possible that CIA Eield offices
would have used similar cover of local plice departments, but he has no Iavleage
of such instances_
Wire Taps
N Osborn states that he has no
acquaintance with the Iire taps made of the
office and hoire phones of tTvo cated columists in Washington in 1962 and
1963, which wire taps are revealed in the file as having been authorized bv
Attornev General Fbert Kennedv (The file reveals continuation of activity
with respect to the surveillance of these olumists into the period Of wnen
Mr = Osborn Was in the Office of Security as its Dputy Director The file dces
howevr, show any indication of actual axareness On the part of Mr - Osborn
thEt telephonestopping
was involved. On the ontrary , there are indications
in the file that
these telephone taps were discontinued imediately prior to
Mr _ Bannerman becoming the Director of Security in 1963, at Iich tim Mr.Osborn
also becane
the Deputy Director of Security.)
#aining_ef State and Local Police and Other Assistance
Mr _ Osborn states that assistance was rendered to many local police departients_
includi those of the cities of New YOrk aa Chicago, and t the Marvland and
Vclyinig stote police during_
the period 1955 to 1972 He states that this
was vigorously and enthusiasticallv aproved and supported by Mr _ Helms
program
Assistance consisted of training of personnel the loaning of equipment and the
declassification of materials_ and techniques in such areas as analysis_
surveillance techniqus= metals detectinn, exolosives detection, locks &nd picks_
hidden microphones_ telephotography and cvert photography , and the setting U,
handl
and organization Of intelligence operations-
nis was terminated upon passage of an amendment to the Law Enforcement
Dznceancta
which prohibited assistance to local and state police departments
Assistance
by the CIA
Mr _ Osbor feels verv stronglv that the program of coperating with and assisting
police departients in improving their capability to fight crime was proper and
that its termination is a serious disservice to the American people _ Referring
prohibition on CIA "police and lalv en forcenent functions 0$ in the National
to the
Osborn is f the cpinion that th? CIA in sharing its
Securitv Act of 1947, Mr =
information ad technical developments with state and local police departents
was
not exercising any police Or
law enforcenent functian_
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Thz Huston Plan
M _ Osbrn states emphatically that the Office of Security had no knowledge
whatever 11 developing Or 2ssisting in the so-called "Huston Plan, relating
to domestic security operations_ He states that he had never heard of it until
it hit the papers at the time Of the [atergate investigation_ All relation-
ships with the Inter-Acency Dmestic Intelligence unit was handled for the CIA
bxz Mr Helms and Mr - Ober.
ne Nosenko Affair 0
Nosenko Ias a KGB agent who defected to the United States in Switzerland in the
early 1960' # _ His interrogation was handled unzzr the supervision Of the SR
Division Of the Directorate of Operations_ especiallv by David Murphy and Peter
Bagl-Y of the SR Division-
N_ Osborn states that he repeatedly protested the treatent of Nosenko_ After
mre than twwo years of solitairy confinement in a special facility for wich the
Office of Security provided all security measures, Mr = Bruce Solie of the Security
Office finally arranged Jr the release of Ncsenko and gradually increased his
privileges and freeda.
N _ Osborn states that Nosenko has proved to be the most valuable defector in
the entire history of the CIA, He has been reszonsible for identifying nine
Isoviet agents, including a major in the Pentzcan.
Surveillznee_9f Justice_ Duglas
N _ Osbom has no knoivledge of the alleged surveillance Of Justice Duglas
(referred to in an article in The Washington Post on February 3 , 1975 , page D-ll)
Contact_with_ ne White House
Mr _ Jshr states that he was not involvez and has no information regarding anv
request from the [hite House for files relating to the cup in which Premier Diem
was overthrown in Vietnam, or regarding the of Pias operation in Cuba The
CIA personnel who muld have been involved in such matters were Willian Nelson _
Deputv Director of Orerations_ on the Bay of Pigs matter; and Ceorge Carver, then
Special Assistant to the DCI for Vietnam affairs, cith respect to the Diem cu_
The only other contact of any nature. with the hhite Houe recalled by Mr _ Osbor
was one which he seems to remember occurring in about 1963 [vhen the Office of
Security was consullted by the Secret Service vith respect to cunter-audio measures p
to protect against buaging and wire taps i' t2 |hite House. He tinks this
occurred during the Presidency of Lyndon Jahrson
Ulauthorized Break-Ins
tr _ Osbom states that the onlv break-ins which have @cured to his knowledge
)V sccuritv personnel of the CIA have becn tixse inwlving employces_ formr
cpployccse or CIA contact agents who werc Innder investigation for suspccted
disclosure of classified infomation. (Det:ails are in the files provided to the
Commaissian. )
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Mr _ Osbom states categorically that the Office of Security has never to his
Jnowlecge:
oonducted zy audio surveillance, telephonz taps, physical surveillance
or perscal investigation of any member of Congress Or public official;
maintained ay file for political or other inproper purpose of anv such
conaressmen or public official;
pulled any file for examination for purpose of checking up on anv such
member of Conress or public official
Mr Osborn states that he does not recall any instance during his career with
the CIA to wich anv particular activity of the Agency was examined in the
specific liqht of Section 403 Of the National Security Act of 1947; i e._ he
dc; ; not recall anv assessment of a proposed or ongoing activity from the
M st dpoint of whether it was improper as a "plice law enforcement" or
11 internal securi function_
Ipression
K. Osborn impresses the interviewer as being honest; intelligent, and dedicatcd
to the interests Of the United States and its people_ His Iemory appeared t be
in error in sore details, but considering the wide range Of the interview ard
the time period involved, coupled with the 1ide breadth on responsibilities ara
the nuber Of personnel under his supervision in the Office of Security, this
is to be expected_
There is One area in which the interviewer was dubtful concerning the complete
candor of Mr_ Osborn. That WAs the area of his knowledge concerning the
Pennington matter.
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STATEMENT
Mir Vice-President
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Governor Reagan , distinguished
members of this Conmission I am here willingly at your
invitation; I shall answer all of your questions fully and
candialy _
My federal service has extended over a 32 year period , 27
of those years Were spent Iith the Central Intelligence Agency
I am proud of my service with the C.I.f., and I am proud of the
thousands of dedicated men and women with Ihom I Torked in the
C.I.A _ I retired from the C.I.A. on De cember 31 , 1974 , after
having been on sick leave from March 8 , 1974 , until the date
of my retirement My last ten years of active service with the
C.I.A . were spent as the Director of Security. I was responsible
to the Director C.I.A_ and to other senior C .I.A_ officials for
personnel security and for the security and protection of classified
information, data and installations
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both in the United States and
abroad During my tenure as Director of Security, I served
successively under Mr . John A McC one , Adniral William Raborn ,
Mr Richard Helms , Mr James R Schlesinger and Mr William F
Colby .
I am aware of allegations g1ven recent prominence by the
newS media that C.I.A conducted improper activities in the
United States Since my departure from active status in March ,
1974 , I have had no access to Agency files or records with Which
to verify or refute such charges I can assure the members 0 f
this Commission u:y full cooperation but it is possible that my
recollection of dates and details may be imprecise or unclear
without access to particular files and records of the C.I.A To
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the best of my
knowledge and belief , all 0f the actions and
2ctivities in which participated, or which I rected arr
recorded and docunented in C.I.A. files.
At all times , while serving as Director of Securit; I
acted with the knowledge and approval and at the instruction
of the Director of C.I.A.
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and in many , if not most instances
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with the knolledge and approval of other senior Agency officials
in the chain of command _ I should like to emphasize that Security
in the Agency is 3 service 2nd support function and its activitiez
are not self-generated_ Among other services , the Office of
Security provided guidance and assistance to employees with
personal problems ; it provided support to other Agency components
upon authorized request and perforred tasks and special inquiri
assigned to it by the Director of C.I.A = The Director of C.I.a
was empolvered and directed by the National Security Act of 1947
to "protect intelligence sources and methods" By virtue of 2nd
extension of that authority , those actions and activities witiin
my purview were designed to prevent potential penetration of th1e
Agency by hostile intelligence services , afford protection to
the Agency 's domestic installations and to determine the sources
of unauthorized disclosure of classified and sensitive Intelligerce
information to public media_
While I am not now privy to precise statistical data,
I believe the United States Government Agencles involved in
intelligence activities can document the fact that the number
of hostile foreiCn intelligence representatlves in our country
has increased Significantly in the last ten years = One of
their prime tarcets is the United States Intelligence Community
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investisation and review of C.I.A . or any othe element
Of inat community should be made Tithin that context _
After many years 0f service in the security field, I
can fully understend the extreme sense of frustration among
the United States Government officials regarding unauthorized
disclosure of classified information It is devastating to
read the contents of 3 highly classified document disseminated
in the intelligence community and then a or two later
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to
read the same infornation ad literatun in the press _ I believe
most firmly in freedom of the press , but I believe also that
there should be a sense of responsibility accompanying such
freedon; that sense of responsibility seems often tobe buried
or absent in the publication of classified information which
could endanger our national security .
I welcome the opportunity to appear before this Commission
and to assist it in acquiring facts relevant to its investigation
In the course of developing such facts , I am hopeful the Commission
will look at the possible consequences of the Agency' s failure to
act even if the Commission should find fault with individual
conclusions or judgments made by Agency officials
I shall endeavor to answer al1 of your questions and I
shall put aside my citizen' s schield against self-incrimination
That decision is based on my desire to assist the Commission to
the full extent of my ability and for the equally cogent reason
that I d0 not believe that ay action I performed w2s unlawful
or in derogation 0f my duties to the United States Government
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d. Polygraphs of job applicants and some contractors have been 5
routinely covertly recorded;
The field offices of the CIA have from time to time installed covert
recording devices to record conversations of CIA employees with
others where there was some reason to be concerned about the
loyalty of such employees.
3. Physical Surveillance
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Physical surveillance of individuals in this country has been very rare
as far 25 the Office of Security is concerned. Circumstances under
which surveillance has been conducted have been limited to the following:
a, CIA employees and contract agents believed to be divulging classi-
fied information to unauthorized persons;
-icton Manchettisto find out if he wag getting inforration from current
employees of the CIA;
C Jack Andef505 Leg Whitten and another_legman to determine their
sources of classified information, and Michael Gerener}; 2 staff writer
for the Washington Postz for the same purpose;
d A female contact of the Latin American Division (and some of her
a99ociates) who reported to the CIA the existen ce of 3 plot to
assassinate the Vice President and to kidnap the Director of Central
Itelligence.
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20 The McCord Letters
b The_Peonington_Mattef
Assistance to E Howard Huotand White House re Ellsberg
5_ Covert Informers_Employed the_Agency
Within_theAgency_and_ Its_Contractors
The Office of Security employs a wide range of confidential in-
formers from among the general roster of erployees of the Agency.
Included here are plumbers , chauffeurs, guards _ telephone main-
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Mr Osborn states that physical surveillance of individuals in this country
has been very rare as far as the Office of Security is concerned He doubts
that it has exceeded ten times during his tenure in the Office of Security.
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He Zescribes those circustances under wich surveillance has been conducted
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as being limited to the following:
1_ CIA employees and contract agents believed to be divulging classified
inforation to unauthorized persons;
2 ~VigtornMaliheeesato find out if he Ias getting information from current
erployees of the CIA;
3 _ Jag Andersonrires Witte; &na another legman to detemmne their sources
Of classifiez information,and Michael-ceetner; a staff writer for the
Washinaton Post, for the same purpose;
4 A female agent of the Latin American Division who reported to the CTA the
existence Qf a plot to assassinate the Vice President and to kidnap the
Director of Central Intelligence- This surveillance was conducted under the
supervision of Mx Ober of the Directorate of Operations, with the full
kowledge of the FBI
Also included in this surveillance was SOre of the contacts of this agent
in Detroit,
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Miami and New York City Tte agent involved here was Thelma
King, and the surveillance took place in 1971 (Mr _ Osborn reports that
a
conversation betleen Miss King and her case Officer in a New York hotel
was also covertly recordeda)
Mr _ Osborn is emphatic to the fact that every
instance of phvsical surveillance
in his experience was authorized by the Director of Cen"ral Intelligence except
that Mr _ Bralwnman , the Deputy Director for Adninistration, may have been the
Official to authorize the surveillance of enployees but it is possible that
these also were approved by Mr = Colby as DCI Mr Osborn is also emphatic to the
effect that no member of Congress has ever been placed under physical surveillance ,
has ever had his telephone tapped, has ever been cvertly monitored with respect
to any conversations or comunications or has ever had a security check perforted
on him by the CIA.
Watergate Contacts
1 The McCord Letters: Mr _ Osbrn states that a letter directed to Mir _ Ielms
in late June 1972 was referred to his office as a part of the 0 crank mail" 0
ved that He recognized the signature On the letter as being that
of a former employee of the Office oE Security_ Mr . James McCord. Mr McCord
had shortlv before that been arrested in connection Ivith the breakin at the
Demcratic National Ieadquarters on Jue 16 _ 1972_ Mr = Osborn states that he
immediatcly brought: this letter to the attention of Richard Ielms , the DCI
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Mr = Helms directed that the letter should be retained in the file, but that
nothing further should be done about it and that he would take care Of it_
Thereafter a series of letters wiere received from M _ McCord by Pzul Gaynor ,
then the Chiei of Secrity Fesearch Staff within the Office of Security
These letters were received by Mr . Gaynor at his hone Each letter was
Promptlv to the attention of Mx Hels The thrust of these letters
was that
broucbtteteh
the to Re-elect the President and high officials within
the Nixon Acninistration were planning to blamz the CIA for the Watergate
break-in. Mr _ Helms directed that these letters not be referred to the
Justice Departent and that he wuld take care of them. Mr Osborn recalls
being present when the matter Ivas discussed Ivith the General Counsel of the
CIA Mr wbo advised that the CIA was not obligated to reveal these
letters to the tice Departnt.
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Mr Osborn gave full testimny Ivith respect to these
McCord letters and the actions regarding them to the Nedzi Subcomittee of
House Appropriatians Comittee and to the cunterpart Senate Subcomittee-
2 The_Pennington_Matter: For Many vears a man named Lee Pennington, a former
FBI agent= has been retained bv the CIA as a confidential informant_ His
copensation from the CIA has been $250 per month. Mr . Osborn stated that he
has no idea what kind of information has ever ben supplied to the Agency by
Mr_ Pennington in exchange for the ompensation paid him.
In Auqust 1972 Mr_ Osborn was
on vacation during the time his deputy= Earalb
{G2iss; was in charge of the Office of Security. (The Office of Security had
been designated by the DCI as the liaison with all other governental agencies
and departents relating to [aterqate matters.)
While Mr _ Osborn was on
vacation anEBI agent named Arnold Parham contacted
the Office of Security &d requested information on a man simplv named
"Pennington' The request was directed to Steve Kuhn the Office of
Security- Mr _ Kuhn s Jeputy, Hollis Whitaker, took the request of agent
Parham to Bgal Cewss and asked whether the FBI should be given the nanes
of both Penningtons or just one of them . ~MEizCziss instructed Whitaker that
Parham should be supplied only with the nane of Cecil Pennington, a retired
erployee of the CIA, who was not related in any wav to Lee Pennington: cGeiss
instructed Whitaker that Iee Pennington 5 nane should not ba given to Parham.
Mizo(G2iss_muld have known that James McCord while he Ias employed in the
Office of Security had acted as the case officer for Iee Perningtone that
McCord Ias involved with the Watergate break-in, and that the FBI was
really
interested in Lee Pennington .
Mr _ Osborn states that all of the abole inforration came to his attention in
February 1974 and that he had no knanleds? oE it until that time _
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