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104-10110-10306) 2025 RELEASE UNDER THE PRESIDENT JOHN F_ KENNEDY ASSASSINATION RECORDS ACT OF 1992
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OUTLINL
Subject:
Philip Burnett Franklin Agee Bwst -
OR EMPLOYEE Elsie 1 _
Scaletti
1s NAME OF OFFICER
2 ,
PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE OF SUBJECT
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Were You ever personally acquainted with kin?
If you were nevet personally
Yes or No anv information of
acquainted with hin
have you acquired
concerning him through other persons?
a
persona] nature Give details including dates ,
Yes or No
can
recall, circumstances ,
by months and years as. best you:
have had
and nature of
any relationship vou mav
purpose
all data relating to his character
with
him &nd provide
briefly with any-stories or
or
personality , ilustrating
result of vour. Own Other information acquired
as a
with him
or which might have been
acquired
relationship
from others .
returN TO CIA
See attached memo
Background Use Only
Do Not Reproduce
OF
YOU , PROJECTS OR OPERATIONS IN
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SUBJECT'S KNONLEDGE_
WHICH
YoU PARTICIPATED
the basis of
vour personal assocfation with
On
social, OT , on the basis of
Subject ,
either official or
believe him to be
knowledgeab le of,
what you know or believe
the
nature and extent
of information You
outline intelligence sefvice as to
he could provide an
opposition
officer or employee ,
(a) your identity as an
intelligence
including
(b)
Youz Peegonal background canoperpe;oence
in which you
places of assignments and (c) operati
(Cryptonyms should be employed
participated in s ome way,
in any event
when known The nature of the
operations
sufficiently described to lead to
should be briefly but periods involved
identification_ with the dates or
their
observations as
to their success or
and any comments or
failure.)
See
memo attached
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40 OTHER AGE"cY PERSONNEL
List' other" Agency personne] Or * former-persomel ,
who on the basis of Your own personal know ledge or
be lief had official or social contact with Subject .
Give brief information as to the period and nature of
such relationship for each
See memo attached .
5 , OTHER U: S, GOVERNAIENT PERSONNEL
List a11 other U, S, Government Personne l on
the basis of your own personal knowledge or belief , had
particularly close official or social contact with
Subject . Identify the Bureau, Department, Agency or
Office with which each such person was emp loyed at the
time Of the relationship and. give brief information
concerning the period and nature of such relationship
for each .
See Memo attached
6 OTHER PERSONS
List a11 other persons who irrespective of nation-
ality , sex, or emp loyment are known or believed to have
had intimate or particularly close_association with him
and brief information concerning the identity and occu-
pation of such persons
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your know ledge of such persons ,
and the period and nature of the relationship of such
person with Subject . Include a1s.0 the names of a.11
American and foreign newspaper people with whom he is
known or believed to have had persona] contact irre-
spective of the extent or closeness of their relation-
ship. Give names with brief information as to the period
and nature of such relationship for each _
know of none_
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HOSTILE INTELLIGENCE CONNECTIONS
Can you provide any information of any kind
tending to estab Jish that Subject may have been
sympathetic to hostile ideologies
or had contact
with and was cooperating with a hostile intelligence
service. Yes or No no If yes, give
full details.
Signed:
Ee_QIsem
Dated 10_July_i972
#This is an OutLine onlv of information desired. If vou
either knew the Subject or have any information from other
sources on any of the points contained in the outline,
a
separate memorandum is needed with each paragraph thereof
keyed to those in this outline If You neither knew the
Subject nor have any information of the kind requested in
any section 0f the outline (and only in such instance)
negative entries may be entered under a11 sections and the
outlined returned after signing and dating _ The signed and
dated outline will thus serve as a memorandum for the files .
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SECRETISENSITI VE
SUBJECT: : Phi Iip Burnett Frankl in Agee
NAME 0F OFFICER OR EMPLOYEE: Elsie L Scaletti
2 PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE OF SUBJECT :
knew Phi1 during the entire time 'he was in
Branch 1 at Headquarters, and during hjs tour in
Mexi co_ We came to Mexico PcS at the same time_
This means 6 knew him fro_ 1965 unt i I he res i gned.
In Headquarters Our relationship was imited to
bus iness n the office, and that_ was 'not Vandied
frequent. We sat in di fferent rooms He SB
matters_ did the routing of al1 Branch
correst pondence which Meant I deci ded what he was to
see--this was anything affecting Soviet/Sate? !itel
Ch inese matters_ My main_areas of responsibi ity
were. in the support field. Even though we were both
process i ng out at the same time, we did not exchange
stories Much. However, since I trave led as a
"Tourist" and was not tnerefore al lowed to bring
anything into Mexico, Phi1 offered to have some of
my
things packed wi th his household effects since
he said he owned hardly anything_ One my husband
and took sone boxes of things over to his apartment
before work. do not remember the name of the
apartment development in Virginia, 'but it was the
garden type. His apartment was nice--fai ioad new
but sparsely furni shed _ He hel us),un the tkings
ai,d take them upstairs_ Then we
parted.
1 seem to recal
tie hnad some trouble witi) his car that Morn and we
d ropped him off at a
repair shop On) the way to the
office.
At this t ime, in Washington, Phi 1 was very
pleasant, was nice to work witin. He did not appear
to be pushy, even thougn hedid everything he could
to the Mex ican ass gnment_ At this time, despite
his fami ly problems, he did not appear to let these
affect his work. At least fron my position he seemed
to his work done, not to procrastinate, not to
take a lot of time off From the gossip I: heard;
he was separated and was anx i OUS to get any assignme t
overseas_ Wnen tne possibi lity of this 0lympic
opened" up in Mex ico he
grabbed- it. As 1
recal 1; C/WH/ 1
was
sympathetic toward him also, and was happy to be
able to Phi 1 at
tnis particular time_
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Mexico when PAf Ps iouseitold effects_ arri ved
Iri
and as
recall, nle brought them over
he let Me know;
Ioaded them into our apart ent.
to my iiouse and we un
In thanks_ We
We did not go and them ue even i =
(Wi 1ard C.
invited him over to supper @fereyeai= "9auar
officers
CURT IS had iven
perission
have Phi
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over to dinner if no outs iders were
to
and pe riss ion was
obtained. ) 1 think
present
i0n7 fromn the dcos at that time_ There
got tfe
three of us ( Phi ), my husband_ and
were only
other nvi ted ts) There was mysel f--no maid, no
knew Phi:) was with
no discussion of office. My
in Mexico
BKT RUST and was working on the 01 ympics
recal1 _
Conversat ion was
Tight: During dinner, as
ioned_
talked about business in Mexico, and he ment
we
father was in the dry-clean ing bus iness, and
his
he might be interested in bringing nto
he thought
cleaning equi pment which is worth
Mex Co some heedndEed
States, and set up sone
nothing in the Un
in Mexico: The "discussion
cieaning establ i shments
ific as to
was merely in
generalities--nothing
about this.
timetable or even i f Phil were ser ous
About a week later Phi 1 brought his car over and
husband helped him work on his car--adjust it
my
tude. This must have been around September
to the alti
1937 .
thereafter, when Laura B. UtstinE was ShortTby
(she worked in WH/I and also knew Phi 1
in Mexico
Phi 1 had my husband, me, and UtstinE
at
Headquarters) ,
(on nsurgentes Sur just off the
over to his apartment
I.t waS: _ a:
huge apaftment: sparseky
Viaducto) for dinner.
very Tight
furnished We had an
enjoyable even
At this time
conversation . Talked Mostly about Mex Co_
he showed uS he had several bedrooms (forget how many)
his sons wou Id be able to visit him.
and iopefuly
his tour in Mexico 1 on Iy saw Phil in the
During
then just n passingin the
Station occasi
Ater Y"heafd
about Phi / 's having kidnapec
halls_ Once after 1
t remember why 1
his boys, thought saw
thent (santhe
Embassy with a
thought they were his) in front of
at
maid_ never saw
Phi 1 in the Embassy proper nor
functions (1 was tourist and did not
any Embassy
rcu late in the Embassy) _
his tou in Mexico, Phi 1
remained pleasant
During
fiud to talk to After Phi 1.
but was
certainl-
# Jolin PROBERT arrived
resi saw him once. aetefde
of the Embassy.
as CoS, 4
saw Fhi ] along the
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permi
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dry
dry
spec
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sreetev: c3c4 cher_ &e said he: hea;rd. ?rO?ERT
was com ing to Mex ico and asked i f hne were here_ He
wanted to call and say nello_ 1 said yes
immed iately informed PROBERT , and suggested the
latter; read Phi 1 ' s file at tie Stat on as it was
my understanding there was
some proplem about his
res ignat ion, but did not knowv al1 the detai ls
(This was true as personne] matters in the Station
were kept very close the front office.) do
not know i f, when, or n1ow many times PROBERT might
have met wit;) Phi 1 At this time Phi | looiked neat
and we ] 1 kept, as 1 recall_
3 _ SUBJECT 'S KNOWLEDGE 0F SCALETTI PROJECTS, OR
OPERAT ONS IN WhI CH SCALETTi PARTICI PATED
a) . Phi 1 cou Id definitely identi fy Me as 3 long-
time BKT RUST employee
6) _ Phi | probably knew that Mexico Ivas My first overseas
assi gnent, and possibly_that 1 had a medi cal
hold before. He knewv had spent "many' years"
in Branch |, and was privy to almost everything
going on at
the Mexico City Station_ He
knew was ass igned to Mex i co under tourist
cover but worked inside the Embassy. He knew
husband wvas here as a
professor at tne Universit
my
Americas, and that he did not work for BKT RUS
of tine
c) _ 1n Headquarters Phi1 knew handled most N%sl tine
ects sucru extras as LILI and
(YBZOBE RGoie
LICUNK Jnad closed down either
just as Phil Tave_
ReRER RDER;
Branch, or just befeFek)e
However,
Gsry fome with LILI
was ass igned to the Branch then, and talked 2ltedka ; th
Phi 1 about Mex ico, possibly about
remember keeping (LPGLOBE material very close,
in Own and 1 do not think Phi t know of
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(LI
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was then: in Mex ico unde '5f4PEHREEZi
but may have learned
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ram
LI REALM
through Ex-LI ADLI B (see< paragraph
In Mex ico city Ph i 1 knew 1 was in the Cuban section,
and Privy to al1 operat i ons be ing run
against the
Cuban target. He did not know of operat ons in
particular except possibly LIARM- 1 (now terminated)
Ih1o we heped to use nst the Cuban 0 Iympic
Tne Cuban Section tried to talk wvitl Pnti 1
targetimes
about the Cuban to the
many
1 but as recal1,
detegatonty sacceeded
in
0 1ymp CS ,
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Phvi 1 to.cone to our end of tie Hial |
GETTIKG
not in 07 the
a
couple of times_ Ias
F FRADYER)
discussions
between C/Cuba (Rzymond
xeld
and Phil, but 6
believe they were mainly
who Phi } inad met wahO might be usefu]
t0 see
1 kinobi Ivz thought 2t
against the
Cuban target_
Imost: ful tine on his
tie time Phi) was
spending a
and he gave
overt activities ad_ the SB target,
ehercuban target iittie attention
OTHER ' AGENCY 'PERSONNEL
Headquarters in H/I Ph i 1 shared his cubicle
Ntth
LIADLI B- [ wno Ias pressing to overseas
as much as Pitil, for di fferent reasjns Ex-
LI ADLIB- } was 2
much more pusiy individual less
exoerienced ,operatioallx; (right out of tixe JOT
ram) and .out to benefit himself entire
prog
than
Pini 1,.24LIADLI B- } went Out of channe
Much more So
of (WOC cover) ideas (for nimself)
constantIy, Satkiogtfe Woad
of Training or Jot and going right +o;che
and WOMACE on
ideas . and
(can t reienber
Wy t rough te_
suggestions: wi thaut gecessari
business deals On
Branch or Division _ He had Many
the side (one Ivas as a landscaper in Vi rginia)
business deals in
and had great
angoe3eG ocffo5
led in Mexico (replacirg
Mexi He wang wii Ie
LiLinK) and Ivas
inserted in tixe LAGLOBE program
he knew Phi 1 (1 think this was
thenzt iming.) He was
in his he had been hired
also f8 %pe;,inx
it
bsaggang
Ivas did not h1ave to go
as a GS-
heve irritated Pni Ivho
up twturanks_ This @ight
to fexico PcS about
kias stim a
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the sane time Paii | and cae _ Although 1
renember
Ios e friendsii betlveen Ex-LIADLI B ara Phi 1
no C
desk, the fact they sat together, were
on the
out for Mex ico, wou ld have meant
poth Paaceonet? ;
in conimor , Also, LI ADLI B was tnen
tney had rg
for CP and leftist
hand | ing all the projects
Station and Base penetratio operations for tile
(Monterrey) _ Phi | Ivuld have more than casua]
interest in sone of these as some Iere be 39 eaad8ed
i n
the field by Howard Ra BENJAYA, athatdPhfieaad
Pfii 1 ' $ fron Ecuador_) do not krolv
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Ex-LI ADLI B ever Met socially in Mexi co or not _
am quite certain thei r work paths never crossed _
LIADLI B is sti11 in Mex ico_ He has had a di fficult
time since his 0I resi gnation" getting a job,
keeping a job, and_making ends meet- It probably
wou Id be to BKTRUST 5 disadvantage now for
the two to Meet_ For this reason, and to assess
ex-LIADLIB-s present state of mind, Headquarters
sent saneone to talk with LI ADLIB- | in the spring
of 1972 _ At that time he still seemed bitter
against BKTRUST.
Other than wi shing to make special mention of
EX-LI ADLI B- | , 1 know of no Agency personnel
other than those in WH/ } and the' Mexico City Statio
whom he knew_
5 _ OTHER U.S. GOVERNMENT PERSONNEL
know of none except the Olympic Attache in Mexico
under whom Agee worked fron Juiy 1967 unti) the
end of the 01ympics_
lbu Qziaazza
(972 1akue